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	<title>Comments on: The Book that Almost Turned me Atheist</title>
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		<title>By: Bible, Tradition, Authority Part 2: The Power of God - Theology - Bible hermeneutics omnipotence - The Christian Humanist Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.nathangilmour.com/hardly/2009/05/the-book-that-almost-turned-me-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-6281</link>
		<dc:creator>Bible, Tradition, Authority Part 2: The Power of God - Theology - Bible hermeneutics omnipotence - The Christian Humanist Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Ockham infects his own treatise.  (I write about the Nominalism-turned-nihilism in my essay &#8220;The Book that Almost Turned me Atheist.&#8221;)  I take as my own lesson that, when one uses language in one&#8217;s God-talk&#8211;and that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Ockham infects his own treatise.  (I write about the Nominalism-turned-nihilism in my essay &#8220;The Book that Almost Turned me Atheist.&#8221;)  I take as my own lesson that, when one uses language in one&#8217;s God-talk&#8211;and that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Apophatic, Apophantic, and why I had to look them up &#124; Hardly the Last Word</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apophatic, Apophantic, and why I had to look them up &#124; Hardly the Last Word</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] positively glowing when I discovered that anholmwiler (a screen name, no doubt) had responded to my post on Luther&#8217;s De Servo Arbitrio with a good blog post in its own right.? Today I&#8217;ll spend some time responding to some of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] positively glowing when I discovered that anholmwiler (a screen name, no doubt) had responded to my post on Luther&#8217;s De Servo Arbitrio with a good blog post in its own right.? Today I&#8217;ll spend some time responding to some of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ngilmour</title>
		<link>http://www.nathangilmour.com/hardly/2009/05/the-book-that-almost-turned-me-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-3607</link>
		<dc:creator>ngilmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy Stephen Altman posted a long response to this post over on &lt;a href=&quot;http://extenuous.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/thoughts-on-nathan-gilmours-the-book-that-almost-made-me-an-atheist/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt; today.  I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it (I&#039;m on the road visiting family), but I do appreciate the engagement.

I&#039;ll likely respond with a full-length post of my own once I have a bit more time, but for now I encourage readers to check his response out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy Stephen Altman posted a long response to this post over on <a href="http://extenuous.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/thoughts-on-nathan-gilmours-the-book-that-almost-made-me-an-atheist/" rel="nofollow">this page</a> today.  I haven&#8217;t had a chance to read it (I&#8217;m on the road visiting family), but I do appreciate the engagement.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll likely respond with a full-length post of my own once I have a bit more time, but for now I encourage readers to check his response out.</p>
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		<title>By: ngilmour</title>
		<link>http://www.nathangilmour.com/hardly/2009/05/the-book-that-almost-turned-me-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-3544</link>
		<dc:creator>ngilmour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right that I was rather imprecise in my word choice here, and I&#039;m not sure that this reply is going to do any better.  When Luther makes &lt;em&gt;every&lt;/em&gt; Biblical imperative simply another instance of God&#039;s paternal mockery of the elect on one hand and legal-case-building against the damned, he takes away something of the character of the narratives, especially those of the Old Testament.  I&#039;m inclined to say that Aristotle&#039;s positing of freedom as a precondition for meaningful ethics, which Erasmus picks up, is also a valid tenet of literary reading, but Luther&#039;s reading makes the entirety of the narrative into some kind of metafiction, a puppet show or some kind of thought-experiment rather than the rich story that a reading-sans-Luther discloses.

To answer your later post, I am inclined to say that texts disclose themselves even as readers bring their own Being to the act of reading.  So yes, I&#039;d say that Erasmus&#039;s way of reading does leave more room than does Luther&#039;s for the text to disclose itself to the reader.  Luther&#039;s way of reading, I think, forces many of his prooftexts to do work that, when most honest readers approach them, aren&#039;t themselves inclined to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right that I was rather imprecise in my word choice here, and I&#8217;m not sure that this reply is going to do any better.  When Luther makes <em>every</em> Biblical imperative simply another instance of God&#8217;s paternal mockery of the elect on one hand and legal-case-building against the damned, he takes away something of the character of the narratives, especially those of the Old Testament.  I&#8217;m inclined to say that Aristotle&#8217;s positing of freedom as a precondition for meaningful ethics, which Erasmus picks up, is also a valid tenet of literary reading, but Luther&#8217;s reading makes the entirety of the narrative into some kind of metafiction, a puppet show or some kind of thought-experiment rather than the rich story that a reading-sans-Luther discloses.</p>
<p>To answer your later post, I am inclined to say that texts disclose themselves even as readers bring their own Being to the act of reading.  So yes, I&#8217;d say that Erasmus&#8217;s way of reading does leave more room than does Luther&#8217;s for the text to disclose itself to the reader.  Luther&#8217;s way of reading, I think, forces many of his prooftexts to do work that, when most honest readers approach them, aren&#8217;t themselves inclined to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.nathangilmour.com/hardly/2009/05/the-book-that-almost-turned-me-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-3455</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...but, I know what you&#039;re getting at.  I just didn&#039;t want ol&#039; Luther to be hung out to dry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but, I know what you&#8217;re getting at.  I just didn&#8217;t want ol&#8217; Luther to be hung out to dry.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.nathangilmour.com/hardly/2009/05/the-book-that-almost-turned-me-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-3454</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason I find it curious when you say, &quot;Luther?s reading is an ideological one, one that flows from a very particular set of prior philosophical convictions rather than the disclosure of the character of the text itself.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason I find it curious when you say, &#8220;Luther?s reading is an ideological one, one that flows from a very particular set of prior philosophical convictions rather than the disclosure of the character of the text itself.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Some Dantean Thoughts from Internet Monk &#124; Hardly the Last Word</title>
		<link>http://www.nathangilmour.com/hardly/2009/05/the-book-that-almost-turned-me-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-3362</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Dantean Thoughts from Internet Monk &#124; Hardly the Last Word</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hyper-suspicion, of course, is a species of the problem that I see in Luther&#8217;s De Servo Arbitrio, and despite my own early suspicions of the iMonk, his use early in the post of the phrase [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hyper-suspicion, of course, is a species of the problem that I see in Luther&#8217;s De Servo Arbitrio, and despite my own early suspicions of the iMonk, his use early in the post of the phrase [...]</p>
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